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  1. deleted user 777 698

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    Dead wrong! 100% fallacy. Karl Marx had a serious problem. Can you tell me what it was ?
     
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      Then when you're responding to a specific member try using the @ as in...... @Mr Smith 36
       
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      Thank you.
       
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    to inquire as to what their beef is.

    All I can find:

    1. Trump has pledged to send the animals who don't belong here, back home where they belong.



    Ah , so Mr smith,
    Anyone who critisises
    rampant excessive Greed
    is a Marxist.

    Well ,
    That is an interesting new interpretation.

    I wonder what you call people who steal money ?

    Oh wise one, I have a question for you. Stealing money is dishonest, is greed? These protesters do not even know why they are protesting. Reporters have asked them why they are protesting, most and I mean MOST do not have a damn clue. It is really pathetic. Most can hardly put two sentences together. Too bad they did not have a teleprompter, well maybe not, they probably can't read.
     
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    Bain Capital !!!
     
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    Fuck politics.let's talk about you.
     
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  5. Distant Lover

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    I don't know about others, I don't wish to flame you. Whatever that is. I merely wish to point out, everything you think about Karl Marx is a fallacy to use your words. Karl Marx's writings have been proven unattainable. You my dear man have to accept the reason. Wishing will not make it true. A guy I work with is fond of saying, wish in one hand, shit in the other and see what hand fills up first.

    - Mr. Smith 36

    This is what I wrote about Karl Marx and Marxism in this thread:

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    As an ideology people are willing to kill and die for Marxism hardly exists anymore. The writings of Karl Marx do influence the thinking of most educated people in the West. That does not make them Marxists. It only means that they have the intellectual sophistication to read Marx critically for valid insights, while rejecting his mistakes.

    For the most part "Marxist" is simply a derogatory term those on the right direct against those who present criticisms of capitalism. In this regard "Marxist" is similar to "racist." Each word is used to inject emotion into discussions that ought to be calm and rational, and to blur thinking where precision is necessary.

    Karl Marx had two valid insights, and made one critical mistake. He detected as soon as 1847 when he wrote The Communist Manifesto that the natural tendencies of unregulated capitalism are to concentrate wealth at the top and to experience increasingly serious economic downturns. That is what did happen from 1847 to 1933, when Franklin Roosevelt was inaugurated. The policies of the New Deal counteracted these tendencies. Recessions became milder and fewer. Most American got pay raises every year that beat inflation.

    Since the policies of the New Deal began to be repealed with the administration of Ronald Reagan the tendencies recognized by Karl Marx have again shown themselves.

    Marx's main mistake was to assume that among working class people class loyalties are stronger than loyalties of race, nation, and ethnicity. The opposite has been more nearly the case. The writings of Karl Marx can explain the Great Depression. They cannot explain the First World War, the rise of Fascism and Nazism, and the popularity of the Klu Klux Klan in the United States.

    Additional mistakes by Marx include the labor theory of value. This ignores the law of supply and demand.

    Contrary to what Marx claimed, there is no natural progression from primitive communism to slavery to feudalism to capitalism to socialism to pure communism in a classless society. The revival of slavery in the New World should have taught Marx that.

    Dialectical Materialism is pure mythology.

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    Your response to what I wrote indicates that you do not understand it, or are intentionally ignoring it.

    Anyone with a degree of intellectual sophistication should be able to tell that I am not a Marxist. Instead, I think that like many political thinkers he had valid insights, but made critical mistakes.

    You do not seem to have read Marx. You are simply repeating what others have told you to think about him.
     
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    The problem with Karl Marx's ideas are the same as the one with Jesus's - human beings have trouble, 1. Understanding them, and 2. Living by them. And oddly enough, they're not that different.
     
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    Karl Marx devoted most of his writing to condemning capitalism and arguing that there were within capitalism forces that would eventually destroy it, and lead to an egalitarian society.

    When Lenin and his Bolsheviks seized power in Russia they discovered that there was little in the writings of Marx telling them how to operate a socialist economy.

    I have found the best articulation of the Marxist ideal of life in the classless society after the Revolution in John Lennon's song "Imagine."

    Imagine there's no heaven
    It's easy if you try
    No hell below us
    Above us only sky
    Imagine all the people
    Living for today... Aha-ah...

    Imagine there's no countries
    It isn't hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religion too
    Imagine all the people
    Living life in peace... You,..

    You may say I'm a dreamer
    But I'm not the only one
    I hope someday you'll join us
    And the world will be as one

    Imagine no possessions
    I wonder if you can
    No need for greed or hunger
    A brotherhood of man
    Imagine all the people
    Sharing all the world... You,..

    You may say I'm a dreamer
    But I'm not the only one
    I hope someday you'll join us
    And the world will be as one

    Most Americans would not like to live in a world in which Christianity was no longer a living religion. Also, Lennon's own life explains why his ideal is unrealistic. He sings, "Imagine no possessions." He died a very rich man.
     
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    Deflection. Pointing to what you think are lies does not cover for the simple fact that what you originally posted is demonstrably false. Several of the points made by the author of your tripe were pure and demonstrable lies.
     
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      Weird how you showed only his pants on fire statements when they rate the majority of Obama's claims true or mostly true on politifact.




      ...Wanna talk about Trump's rulings? If we post all of his falsehoods it'll take up several pages of this thread.
       
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    Demonstrably false? Why? Because a blog on whitehouse.gov claims so?
     
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    As long as USA is in debts up to very ears.I personally assume you need business man president.Cause politic presidents brought your country to a very edge of shit pool.You people are in trouble though you seem not to know it.Wish your deligates make right desision.
     
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    Donald Trump's businesses have gone bankrupt four times. Trump University was a scam. Trump will not release his tax returns, so we do not know if he is rich or not. For all we know he might be in debt.
     
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    oops
     
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    Four out of about four hundred business ventures. Do the math.

    The Trump needles.jpg
     
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